Unknown Speaker 0:01
Hello everyone and welcome to perfect practice. This is Sachin Patel. Today I’m really excited because I get to spend time with a dear colleague of mine, Dan Trussler. Dan is a registered osteopath and functional medicine practitioner who practices but an hour east of London, in the UK, in a town called Essex. So Dan’s an amazing practitioner. And what I wanted to do is I wanted to help him, help other people by interviewing him and understanding a little bit more about what drives him, what he’s passionate about how he serves his clients and his community so that they can get the outstanding results that they have been getting, and so that he can serve and help more people. So Dan, thanks for being here today.
Dan Trussler 0:46
Thanks for having me on the show Sachin it’s such a pleasure.
Unknown Speaker 0:49
I’d love for people to learn a little bit more about you. So why don’t we start by how you got into you know a osteopathic as a profession and then how you transferred Or why you actually added functional medicine as part of your tool belt?
Dan Trussler 1:05
Sure. Yeah. So I was studying at university and I was studying Sports Science and had a real interest in sport. And that’s been a key feature of my whole career. But that time I was I was really suffering my health. My skin on my hands in particular was was particularly bad. I’d have weeping skin on my hands, and I just be itching forever overnight. So this was diagnosis of eczema in my childhood and it never even got better. It carried on into my into my late teens and early 20s. And it really started affecting my health and my life because people, I would compare myself to others around me, and I’d have to be going to bed and wear these white cotton gloves to stop myself from scratching in in the nighttime and I’d be getting lots of jokes about how I was like Michael Jackson putting these gloves on at night amongst my university Friends. It wasn’t the coolest thing and it really was, you know, affecting how I perceived myself at that time. And it wasn’t until I was given advice to maybe look into my diet. That was the first time that I made a connection between what I was eating and my digestive health and my skin health for my hands. So, fast forward a couple of years and I decided that I wanted to learn more about human body I’ve got fascinated into how black can affect things. So I applied to study osteopathic school. So the four year medical degree, basic covers everything that that a doctor would study minus the, what I call the poisoning part, the drugs part. And then it gave me a real good understanding of anatomy, physiology and how the body works, and then went on to study with a very experienced Osteopath, Howard Beardmore who had been helping people using lifestyle principles alongside manual therapy of osteopathy, and really taught me that the deeper philosophy the background goes to a guy called AT Still who’s in Kirksville. And it was a it was initially started as a alternative for treating infectious disease and how the manipulation of the body was actually getting much better results than the drugs that were being used at the time. So that really fascinated me and I’d moved my interest beyond sports at this time and to to the health of myself and family and others.
However, I still had these nagging digestive issues, you know I’d be the one that at a party and I’d really have to just hold in gas and when the whole time so you know, I can resonate with the clients that I work with now that have digestive distress, because I’ve been there you know, I’ve I’ve been the one who’s given themselves stomach pain, because of Having to hold in gas the whole time. And it wasn’t until I came across functional medicine and actually had some testing done that I realized there was a little bit more to it and I worked with with a practitioner, Dr. Siegel, who, who works in your team and that’s really helped me over the last three or four years now and you know, get to the point now I have no digestive distress and, and you know, my hands have been free of of eczema for a long time. So that’s brought me now to want to share that with others and help them take ownership of their health and realize that there is a solution out there for them.
Unknown Speaker 4:41
You know, I love the vulnerability. Thank you for sharing that actually, that’s one of the first times I’m hearing some of those components of the story as well. So I know I know some of these things aren’t easy to share, but it’s powerful that your clients know this because then they understand that you know what they’re going through. Lot of times when people see specialists, they’re trying to describe, you know, the sun to a blind person, right, who hasn’t experienced or doesn’t know, how traumatizing or how difficult some of these scenarios might be. And so that’s a really powerful share. Thank you for sharing that. And I hope anyone who’s watching this, you know, understands that you want to find a practitioner and you want to find somebody who understands you who gets you. Because when they understand what your challenges are, then they don’t minimize them. They don’t say, Oh, that’s normal, right? They don’t say, oh, that’ll go away, or it’s not a big deal. It is a big deal when it’s happening to you. So I really appreciate you sharing that. And then, you know, it’s great to always, you know, help people, right. So I’m glad that Dr. Siegler was able to help you and serve you and kind of show you a different way. And now you’re doing that for your community. And so I see us a little sign there behind you. Looks like you got a workshop coming up. You want to tell us a little bit about that.
Dan Trussler 5:59
Yeah, sure. I love having members of the community come into the clinic and we’re holding a workshop this Sunday. And we’re we’re committed to at least one workshop a month this this year to help members of the community come in and and hear how they can improve their digestive health. So yeah, this Sunday, it’s overcoming the the root causes of IBS reflux and other digestive conditions.
Unknown Speaker 6:22
Awesome. So now that we have an idea of what you’re passionate about, and why you’re passionate about it, I’d love to hear some case studies. So there must be some remarkable case studies that kind of jump out and stick out at you that you know, that are kind of etched in your heart and in your mind. Tell us about some of your successful case studies.
Dan Trussler 6:41
Well, a lady just come in this week who I’ve been working with for five months now. And she’s had some major breakthroughs during that time. So let’s start with her. She’s a lady in her 50s who works as a carer so she’s looking after other people as well, but she had had indigestion and reflux since her early teens and she had an operation actually to release part of her diaphragm, which is the big muscle that goes underneath the rib cage and and forms part of the sphincter that closes off the Food Tube between the esophagus and the stomach. And this was aiming to improve her Indigestion. But she still had a daily indigestion since then added to that she started to have secondary conditions, including irritable bladder she’d be up six times a night, having to go to the toilet, as well as recurrent bladder infections that started to occur two years ago. She has had a migraine each month until we started working together. So she was you know, she was in a pretty tough place and the medical profession hadn’t been able to offer any solutions that have that have worked for her. So she was referred to our clinic in September last year. And we did some testing on her. And we we found out some things that she wasn’t aware of. We found out that she had a stomach infection and been that would have been there a long time. And from her history, we also found out that she wasn’t eating in a way that was allowing her nervous system to process food going through her digestive system, so she’d often eat sitting in front of the TV off her lap.
Some often these simple lifestyle changes that we can identify people can go a long way alongside that the lab tests that we run with them. So yeah, fast forward on five months, and now we’ve completely overcome her indigestion that is no longer a problem, although just over Christmas recently said she had a little recurrence once but she knew exactly why. So we’ve increased her awareness of our own body. She no longer has any migraines. She’s lost over 1 stone in weight, which was a nice byproduct of the process that we’ve been through together. And now she’s only up once in the evening rather than six times a night. It’s just one time to pass urine in the night. So she’s really, really happy. But we still got a little bit more to do. She knows she wants to be even better, which is another thing of people going on this journey, they realize that the sky’s the limit and they can really take things on further.
Unknown Speaker 9:29
I love what you said there about helping her raise awareness because that is such a valuable skill set that people may take for granted right now that she knows why she’s not feeling well or what she can do to get back on the right track. That’s a very, very powerful skill and and not something to be underestimated. And it’s also important that you helped her kind of unlock this understanding that you know, life is like this, you know, this flower that just keeps on blooming. And, you know, it’s this thousand petaled Lotus so to speak, that continues to bloom and bloom and bloom and it just never ends. And and, you know, to give somebody that level of hope. And that level of encouragement that wants them to reach for the stars is such a powerful tool as well. So I appreciate you sharing some of that. That’s pretty awesome.So what did you do? You certainly created results for her, certainly moved her in the right direction. What would you say you did differently? I know, I know, you kind of mentioned it, but let’s piece it together. So what would you say is different about somebody coming in to see you and and somebody’s going to see their conventional practitioner, or even what’s the difference between you and seeing another functional medicine practitioner because I know you do things a little bit differently?
Dan Trussler 10:47
Sure, and I think our intake process is the most comprehensive that most people have come across. We get a lot of remarks on how in depth our intake form is. We want to take every aspect of their life into consideration. And because we just don’t want to miss anything, you know, we find ourselves very much as detectives. And we want to find what aspect of their life is potentially holding them back because we have that philosophy that the body will tend towards health. It’s a naturally restoring homeostatic mechanism. But there must be something that’s obstructing the body’s natural tendency towards health. So, yeah, we really become a detective in those initial stages. The other thing I think that that makes a real difference is our Lifestyle coaching and the importance that we place on people making changes to their lifestyle and supporting them through this. It’s very easy and I have other people come from other practitioners who, you know been given a big list of supplements and never actually really been taught how to eat for example. How to best digest a meal. And even, you know, little tips on and how to be in the best position to go to the toilet it’s things that can make a real difference in people’s health and are often overlooked by other practitioners on a more conventional setting, and she’d been down the route of taking medication but this lady was someone who who realized that, you know, drugs aren’t the answer for her she wanted a more long term solution. She wasn’t somebody who wants to take medications long term.
Unknown Speaker 12:38
Yeah, so the goal, the goal is always the focus is always long term, right? How do we create not just an immediate improvement, because you can certainly do that when people have more awareness and they start unlocking and up leveling their lifestyle strategy, but it’s the long term results and I feel like a lot of practitioners might have a tendency to maybe maybe be too short term focused. Yes, you can get short term results using medications. You can even get short term results using herbs and supplements, but the long term results, really the skills that people develop working with you are going to be a long term investment in their overall health and wellness. And one thing I always remind people is that if we can help people become 1% healthier, or live 1% longer than that’s a 270 days that they’re adding to their lives if we can help them live 5% healthier and hopefully 5% longer that’s four years to the average person’s life. So it doesn’t have to be like super dramatic changes and complete overhauls of what people are doing. What you’re getting people to do is to take something that they’re already doing, and do it with consciousness and awareness so that they can do it just a little bit better or, in some cases significantly better. I mean, I can certainly think of somebody watching TV sitting in front of the TV, maybe not eating their food or not being present. I mean, we can up level that person’s digestion significantly by getting them into that moment and getting them to choose to chill and cherish, right? There’s all these things that they can do to up level specific behavior. So I love that you’re not really, you know, adding a lot to their plate, you know, no pun intended, what you’re doing is you’re layering on top strategy to leverage their time much more effectively. And, you know, in the long run, that saves people money as well. And I know that, you know, both of us have a lot of value for what we do, but we also have a lot of value for people’s time and money. And we want health care to be affordable and accessible to as many people as possible and the most affordable form of health care is, is when you empower the patient or the client to become their own best health advocate, right? You’re there coaching them and supporting them. Really, ultimately, the responsibility is on them. You can’t chew their food for them, right. I know that working with people, you know, you you don’t just work with them as a clinician, but you work with them as a coach as well. So tell us a little bit more about that, how do you incorporate that into your practice to get the awesome outcomes that you do?
Dan Trussler 15:07
Yeah, you know, the coaching aspect is, is very, very important because some people struggle to make some of the lifestyle changes initially and everybody needs a coach, everyone needs to be held accountable. I like to think back to our, our childhood and for a lot of people that’s the most successful time in their lives. Because school in general makes people be held accountable, you know, and sometimes that’s that’s what we look to to get away from as we go into adulthood. We don’t want somebody looking over us and making sure that we’re getting our homework done on time and things but but actually, that’s what can make a real difference, you know, and I want a coach for that reason, because I want to be held accountable. And I want someone who’s tread those steps before me to to make my path easier. And I think that’s what people value. You know, me having been on my health journey, I can quicken their journey from where they are at the moment to where they want to be. So, yeah, coaching is a an important part of our process.
Unknown Speaker 16:11
Awesome. And then tell me a little bit more about who’s a good fit to work with you Like, how do you identify that because people who are listening to this, there’s probably millions of people that you can serve. And I would imagine that there’s a subset of people of those millions that tend to get better results than others. So I know that outcomes are very important to you, how do you determine who’s going to get great results?
Dan Trussler 16:42
So we like to work with people who who are committed and we we really like working with people that have already have some indication that they believe that more natural approach is is the solution that they want. A lot of people would have done some research on nutrition, maybe they would already start to have made some changes to their lifestyle, but not quite able to piece all the pieces of that puzzle together. So we really like working with people that are willing to learn, we place a high value on growth and learning. All of our staff members here are encouraged to always be learning new skills and to be on courses. I will travel all around the world to learn from the best people in the industry to make sure that my knowledge and understanding and experience is at the highest level. And that’s that’s what we expect from our from our patients is for them to be on that path of learning and growing.
Unknown Speaker 17:44
Yeah, you know that commitment from people is is super vital and and I love what you said that you’re committed to learning and growing and traveling the world. I know we’ve been to events together and you’re a very keen learner and somebody who’s constantly looking to Up level their skills so they can, you know, better serve their community and, you know, provide, you know, not just the latest research, but also using ancient wisdom and time tested and proven methodologies. Because, you know, I want to always think about this. And this is very important. And I know that this is your line of thought as well as it, if it worked 1000 years ago, it’ll work 1000 years from now. And if you know, something as simple as chewing your food, or sitting in the right position, you know, like the squatty potty you talked about, or the right positioning when you go to the bathroom, I mean, that’s a game changer for some people. And it’s so simple. And you know, the rest of the world goes to the bathroom with this pelvic position. And all we have to do, we can still use the bathroom the way we do, but we just have to add a little stool under our feet and it changes everything. So I love that you’re incorporating, you know, proven methodology that you know, is relevant or has been relevant for thousands of years, but then combining that with also the latest research and the latest, you know, information that’s coming out so that you can solve modern day problems, right. So, you know, some some of our challenges that we face today didn’t exist 1000 years ago. So we need modern day solutions. And it’s great that you’re up keeping with that. One of those modern day solutions is lab testing. So why don’t we spend a couple minutes and talk a little bit about that? Maybe Why is the lab testing you do different than perhaps the lab testing somebody might get from their traditional practitioner?
Dan Trussler 19:30
Yeah, sure, we like to test rather than guess when it comes to our patients health. So we we get information from different tests but we would like to educate our patients on what that testing shows you know, it’s not testing for the sake of getting a label or a diagnosis, which will be the case with with going to their GP here in here in the UK. And even then the amount of people that go to the and get have a blood test they’re told that everything’s normal, everything’s okay. But that’s just because, you know, they’re looking for something out of range that they can give a label or a diagnosis to it. We want to intervene much, much sooner than that. So the range is that we will use for something like a blood test will be much more narrow, we’re looking for an optimal range. And signs that there are things moving in the wrong direction before something goes way into the wrong direction and could then be given a diagnosis or a label, we’re going to intervene much sooner than that. And so we’re looking at more of a functional range if you like, and that could be with vitamin deficiencies, it could be mineral deficiencies. It could be that the immune system is starting to show signs of getting out of balance and you know, all this stuff can can really help guide the journey that we take our patients on and shorten that journey than perhaps if they they saw a practitioner who was just going to go on their symptoms alone. And just make recommendations on therapeutic approaches based on symptoms alone.
Unknown Speaker 21:05
It’s kind of like trying to chop the top of an iceberg off, right? So if you chop off the top of the iceberg, it’s going to seem like it’s gone for a moment, and then the rest of the iceberg is going to come to the surface. And, you know, that’s not a sustainable strategy. So I love that, you know, it, getting the right testing done, when it’s appropriate when the clients, you know, done some of the work to make the right interventions and doing the right things. You know, I’m sure it saves them time, which consequently also saves them money. And I know that’s one of your core values is, is making care affordable. And lab testing allows you to focus your time, energy and effort. And if you do need to spend money on supplements or you do need to have any type of interventions, your energy is focused, it’s not kind of scattered and all over the place. And remember, it’s the magnifying glass glass can burn down the whole forest only if it’s focused correctly. Right? Work and start a fire to keep us warm, whatever that might be. But it has to be focused. And so I love that you take a focused approach with the intention to get to the root cause resolution. And one of the byproducts of that is saving time and money, which, you know, as much as people have, it’s something that they’d rather not part with. Right. I don’t hear too many people saying, Man, I wish I had less money or I wish I had less time. So this brings people or gives people more of that back, which I think the world needs now more than ever, and of course, it lowers their stress levels, get some more parasympathetic and that gets some better results as well. So I love how you put this all together. I love your story. I love you know how you’re sharing this with your community. I love that you’re making an effort to get your message out into the world and share online. I know you’ve got in person programs that you offer. I know you’ve got some online work that you’re doing as well. So I’d love to, you know, send people a little bit more information and, you know, make sure that they know exactly how to get in touch with a practitioner like yourself, so why don’t you tell us how people can get a hold of you?
Dan Trussler 23:05
Yeah, sure. So our website is ancestral health. So www.ancestralhealth.co.uk. And there I’ve got a video series on there. So at 10 step video series on how someone can improve their digestive health in 10 days. And we also have a Facebook a good following on Facebook. The the page is linked to a group that people are welcome to come and join. And we have lots of like minded individuals sharing lots of valuable information. And really give that community community feel online. And as you say, we are going to be working with people in 2020 in an online format.
Unknown Speaker 23:43
I love it. Well, brother, thank you so much. Thank you for your passion. Thank you for your contribution to our profession and to your community, and for making the world a better place. But always starting with yourself first, and leading through leadership and showing us all you know practitioners but also patients what’s possible when you know you put your heart into something and the right intention into something, I appreciate you.
Dan Trussler 24:08
Thank you so much. And it’s been it’s been great fun and I like learning from you and, and the fantastic intention that you have with all the work that you do too.
Unknown Speaker 24:17
Thank you, brother. Have an amazing rest of your day. And thank you everyone for tuning in. I hope you got a sense of how passionate Dan is about his work. I hope that if you’re passionate about your health that you reach out to him and connect with him, because you can see his hearts in the right place. His head’s in the right place and he’s going to help you get your health in the right place. Thank you once again have an amazing, amazing rest of your day.
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